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Series 4 Episode 8: The Bandit from Stoke-on-Trent

In which our heroes mingle with the criminal classes…

Bob: Timothy Bateson! Timothy Bateson! Timothy Bateson!

NOTE : It took a full five minutes, two cups of tea and half a packet of McVitie’s Hobnobs to pull Bob down from his character actor-fuelled mini-stroke.

Bob: What a brilliant surprise… a fabulous, fruity British character actor who’s never failed to light up absolutely anything I’ve seen him in. He’d be doing his marvellous thing in the Doctor Who story The Ribos Operation a few months after this episode was broadcast, so 1978 was a vintage year for seasoned Timothy Bateson-watchers.

Attention Griffin Savers!

Attention Griffin Savers!

Anyway, he turns up here as the suave but slimy Amos, clearly an old acquaintance of our heroes with a reputation that’s less than salubrious. ‘You’ll love Amos, he’s a laugh a minute,’ enthuses Clegg, and for once there’s not a hint of sarcasm. It’s a brilliant guest performance from Bateson that brings the episode to life. Is Amos really a seasoned criminal? We’re never sure, but our heroes are constantly checking their wallets to be on the safe side.

Andrew: I’m not as entirely enamored of Amos as you are. Bateson was undeniably a great actor – with his roles in Labyrinth and Tugs being my standouts – but his character here is both written and performed a little too broadly for my tastes. It’s almost as if he’s popped over for a visit from a David Croft sitcom. I love Croft’s work, but his tone is a million miles from Roy Clarke’s.

Bob: There’s some lovely late 1970s nostalgia in this episode. The sight of an old-school Midlands Bank, complete with griffin logo, took me back… as did the pub’s stained brown snooker room, complete with wooden fag machine and leatherette seats. There aren’t many pubs these days that have maintained that level of studied shabbiness throughout the decades. And so, in a fit of Foggy-led paranoia, our heroes become convinced that Amos is back in town with the intention of robbing said bank, despite all appearances to the contrary.

It’s an episode with the bare minimum of plot, but a delicious helping of lovely character acting and fine, fruity dialogue. Where else can you see two old ladies in a shop, talking about the ‘illustrated sex manual’ bought by one of their husbands. ‘Is it fully illustrated?’ asks one old dear, her eyes agog. ‘You must be joking,’ comes the reply. ‘I couldn’t eat solid food for a week’. Pure Northern nudge-nudge, and I love it.

' illustrated sex manual'.

‘…an illustrated sex manual’.

Andrew: That really shocked me actually, but I think I might have read more into the lines than was actually there! I’m a scrotty little herbert by default.

Bob: And then, right at the end, apropos of nothing, a moment of pure poignancy from Clegg. ‘We were married all those years, and we never had children,’ he ponders, staring wistfully into space. ‘Do you think flannelette sheets cause impotence?’

I’ve never heard Clegg be so rueful about anything in the series so far, but my heart went out to him here. A really nice touch, made all the more striking for its incongruous inclusion amongst the belly laughs. 

Andrew: Yep, in the poignancy stakes, that’s up there with Ivy’s wistful look at Compo’s extended family, back during Series 2.


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    April 17, 2012 8:03 pmPosted 10 years ago
    Chris Orton

    Fellers, has it ever been established how old the characters were at the start of the series? Given that it ran for about 40 years and that Clegg must have been about 85 by then I find it hard to believe that he was only 45 at the beginning.

    Telly years must work differently!

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      April 18, 2012 12:20 amPosted 10 years ago
      Jakob Pieterson

      They were supposed to be in their 50’s in the pilot. “Redundant instead of Retired” is a quote relating to it (the first draft had them in their 70’s). Peter Sallis was actually 52 when the series started (Bill Owen was 59, Michael Bates was 53, Brian Wilde was only 49 when he joined).

      Regarding this episode, it’s always been one of my least favourites and one that i’ve tended to skip on rewatches, so i’ve just watched it tonight. I tend to agree with Andrew regarding Bateson, he’s a little to broad, but really it’s the plot that i find a bit lacking in this…i never for one moment believe the security guard bit. Still there’s some lovely character moments as you say.

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    March 19, 2015 4:07 pmPosted 7 years ago
    Darren Stephens

    Timothy Bateson and things that cannot be unseen: his turn as Dad in Metal Mickey. Boogie boogie boogie, my little Fruitbat, indeed…

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    March 20, 2015 10:19 amPosted 7 years ago
    Bob Fischer

    I haven’t seen Metal Mickey since 1983. Is it worth a punt? (NB I’m not blogging it)

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    September 22, 2016 2:26 pmPosted 5 years ago
    Simon S

    I can only echo the love for Tim Bateson, up there with Gerald James for making a one-off character into such a living, breathing performance.

    It’s nice for Foggy to find a villain for once, his soldier-sense immediately tingling, and getting stronger at every turn. He ever makes Clegg uncertain.

    The pub snooker scene makes a nice change, and Clegg’s dropped glass is a gloriously-timed moment, matched by Foggy’s rather ponderous build-up to making him pay for it.

    The old-school Midland Bank does indeed seem like from another world, another time… and the unsubtle dig at women drivers leads to that chip shop scene. It took me a few times to realise that the chippy is the same guy who ran the bar back in “A Quiet Drink”.

    It’s almost a shame that Foggy’s misguided attempt to rescue the security van goes quite so wrong, but there’s real affection when Compo returns his stick to him. The bus finale offers a welcome moment for Compo and Foggy to share a victory, too.

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      July 26, 2020 11:41 pmPosted 1 year ago
      George Kempson

      The Chippy owner and the pub landlord in “A quiet drink” are not the same actors Simon.
      The landlord is George Malpas, the chippy owner was Royston Tickner, who was in many comedies and serious roles in the 70’s.

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        February 9, 2021 2:44 pmPosted 1 year ago
        Simon S

        Indeed it isn’t. Took me a few goes to realise. Similar weather-beaten faces and retail postures.

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    July 26, 2017 3:00 pmPosted 4 years ago
    Iain Bacon

    Has anyone got a clear idea which actress in the chip shop scene is which? The 2 I mean talk about the sex manual and are credited as Kathy Proctor and Frances Goodall, but which is which? I can’t find anything which differentiates the 2.

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    March 31, 2020 10:10 amPosted 2 years ago
    Michael Condy

    I recognise Timothy Bateson from an episode of Going Straight, the spin off series of Porridge which deals with Fletcher’s life after Slade prison and his attempt (along with Godber) to lead an honest life.
    In that he also played a rather reprehensible character whom tries to coax Fletcher back into nefarious ways.
    I also seem to remember seeing him in thr George C. Scott ‘Christmas Carol’ movie; “They’re striking up Sir Roger de Coverley!”

    I must admit I found the learner driver and chip shop scene a bit daft and exaggerated. No learner driver could be that bad. Not even Maureen!

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    April 12, 2021 7:04 pmPosted 1 year ago

    I’d forgotten Timothy Bateson was in Tugs! Another brilliant series cut down too soon.

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    November 29, 2021 8:57 pmPosted 5 months ago
    Colin Beardsmore

    Going back to The bandit from Stoke on Trent, I seem to vaguely recognise the bank manager who comes out the bank after Foggy is “arrested” by the security guards. Although he’s not credited in the cast, I seem to think he may have appeared in one of the main soaps during the 70’s or 80’s. Any ideas anyone ?


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